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					<description><![CDATA[Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth sparred with some Democratic senators as he was grilled at a congressional hearing Wednesday about the Trump administration&#8217;s latest military actions. The former Fox News host, who faced a contentious confirmation hearing, got into a heated exchange before the Senate Armed Services Committee with Sen. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich., who questioned him [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao MvWXB TjIXL aGjvy ebVHC ">Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth sparred with some Democratic senators as he was grilled at a congressional hearing Wednesday about the Trump administration&#8217;s latest military actions.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The former Fox News host, who faced a<a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/hegseth-hearing-live-updates-trumps-pentagon-pick-face?id=117620443&amp;entryId=117666178" target="_blank"> contentious confirmation</a> hearing, got into a heated exchange before the Senate Armed Services Committee with Sen. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich., who questioned him over the military&#8217;s authority to arrest and detain protesters.</p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;It&#8217;s sort of amusing the extent to which the speculation is out there,&#8221; Hegseth said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;So what is the order? Then list it out for us. List it out for us. Be a man. Did you authorize them to detain or arrest?&#8221; Slotkin, a former CIA analyst who served in Iraq, said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The senator questioned Hegseth about the possibility of an order given for the military to use lethal force against protesters.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;I&#8217;m just asking the question. Don&#8217;t laugh,&#8221; Slotkin said after Hegseth brushed off the question.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;What is that based on?&#8221; Hegseth responded. &#8220;What evidence do you have that that order has ever been given?&#8221;</p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Slotkin responded that his predecessor, Mark Esper, didn&#8217;t accept such an order during the first administration. She cited Esper&#8217;s <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/ego-mark-esper-trump-84631058" target="_blank">memoir</a> where he claimed Trump inquired if the military could shoot protesters who demonstrated in the streets during the 2020 George Floyd protests.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;He had more guts and balls than you because he said, I&#8217;m not going to send in a uniformed military to do something that I know in my gut isn&#8217;t right … You&#8217;re pooh-poohing this,&#8221; the senator said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Hegseth testified that there was &#8220;zero indication that an order was given to shoot protesters and that has not happened.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">But when she asked whether troops could use force against unarmed civilians, Hegseth wouldn’t say.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;I&#8217;d be careful what you read in books and believing it. Except for the Bible,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Hegseth responded similarly when questioned by Sen. Jacky Rosen, D-Ariz, earlier in the hearing.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Rosen asked about the <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/loomer-urged-trump-remove-nsa-director-multiple-agencies/story?id=120484445" target="_blank">firings</a> of several top national security officials, including the director of the National Security Agency, Gen. Timothy Haugh, that were allegedly done at the request of far-right social media influencer Laura Loomer.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;She&#8217;s been denounced even by Republicans, and the idea is that any leaders within our agency responsible for our nation&#8217;s security, somebody would be dismissed based on the advice of a social media influencer,&#8221; Rosen said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Hegseth reiterated that the panel should not be &#8220;believing everything you read in the media.&#8221;</p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;I don&#8217;t discuss who I talk about anything with, but ultimately, this is my decision and he serves at the pleasure of the president and that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s no longer there,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;Do you believe it&#8217;s appropriate for social media to influence personnel decisions in your department, yes or no?&#8221; Rosen asked. Time then expired. The chairman left a moment for Hegseth to answer the question, as witnesses often do after a lawmaker has asked their final question.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Hegseth took a beat, and said, &#8220;I believe your time is up.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Rosen pushed back.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC eTIW sUzSN ">&#8220;Oh, it is not up to you to tell me when my time is up. I am going to say, Mr. Secretary, you&#8217;re either feckless or complicit. You&#8217;re not in control of your department,&#8221; she replied. &#8220;You [are] unserious. &#8230; I yield back and I don&#8217;t appreciate the smirk, sir. You are the secretary of defense.&#8221;</p>
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