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		<title>What the Trump-Putin call means for Ukraine: Analysis</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[President Donald Trump&#8217;s phone call to Russian President Vladimir Putin has hit Europe and Ukraine as an earthquake, even if one that was partly expected. In a single call, Trump has transformed Putin&#8217;s position and the war. For three years, Putin has been treated by the U.S. as a pariah—that is now over. Trump has [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao MvWXB TjIXL aGjvy ebVHC ">President<a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-spoke-putin-ending-war-ukraine/story?id=118741450" target="_blank"> Donald Trump&#8217;s phone call to Russian President Vladimir Putin</a> <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/trump-putin-prepare-begin-ukraine-peace-talks-europe/story?id=118771634" target="_blank">has hit Europe</a> and Ukraine as an earthquake, even if one that was partly expected.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">In a single call, Trump has transformed Putin&#8217;s position and the war. For three years, Putin has been treated by the U.S. as a pariah—that is now over. Trump has signaled he will welcome him back and even hopes for friendly relations.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The call has understandably been received with delight in Russia. Even before the war, Putin&#8217;s key goal has been to negotiate directly with the U.S. and over the head of Ukraine. There is now clearly a serious risk he will achieve that.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">In Ukraine, there is confusion and concern.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">A former senior Ukrainian official told ABC News they do not understand why Trump has given up two major negotiating points before talks have begun—no NATO membership, and territory.</p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;It&#8217;s just two gifts straight on the table without any negotiations. If you are an experienced negotiator, like Trump, you don&#8217;t do that, right?&#8221; the official, who asked for anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issues, said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The former official added, &#8220;Unless you just don&#8217;t care, you just want to give up everything for a haphazard, patched up peace, which is not going to hold for like 10 minutes.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">That is the big fear for Ukrainians—simply that Trump now appears to care more about relations with Russia than Ukraine.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Russian officials are also signaling, they will not stop fighting unless they get what they want. Talks can begin and fighting will continue.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;Make no mistake—Putin is fully prepared for these talks to fail,&#8221; Tatiana Stanovaya, founder of R.Politik, a political analysis firm, and a senior fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center, wrote on X. &#8220;Putin will continue to flatter and appease Trump, offering concessions that Trump will portray as a HUGE SUCCESS and a WONDERFUL DEAL. But these concessions—such as a ceasefire—will not deter Russia from its ultimate goal.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">That goal, Stanovaya wrote, is still to produce a disarmed Ukraine, subordinated to Moscow.</p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Trump also spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after his call with Putin.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Zelenskyy warned against sidelining Ukraine on Thursday and that Trump should not meet with Putin before him. “We, as a sovereign country, simply will not be able to accept any agreements without us,” he told journalists in Ukraine on Thursday, adding that Europe must also be involved.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;If calls are just calls, I understand, but meetings are our priority. Ukraine, America, and only after those meetings, after working out a plan to stop Putin, would it be fair to talk with the Russians,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Some European leaders echoed this.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said it was &#8220;regrettable&#8221; that &#8220;the Trump administration has already made public concessions to Putin before negotiations have even begun.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Estonian Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur concurred. &#8220;We must not hand Russia any advantage before negotiations even begin,&#8221; Pevkur said in a statement.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">It is not yet a disaster for Ukraine. Trump&#8217;s position has been known for months, and U.S. Defense Secretary <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/full-ukrainian-liberation-russia-unrealistic-hegseth-tells-allies/story?id=118727933" target="_blank">Pete Hegseth&#8217;s announcements</a> Wednesday did not fundamentally change it.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Hegseth told foreign leaders and allies during a Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting that a return to Ukraine&#8217;s pre-war borders is an &#8220;unrealistic objective&#8221; in peace talks, as was NATO membership for Ukraine.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;Chasing this illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering,&#8221; Hegseth said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Many in Ukraine already understood that NATO membership and reclaiming all its territory by force were not possible. What Ukrainian officials say is critical are security guarantees that prevent Russia from simply regrouping and attacking again.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">If Ukraine continues to receive enough weapons and support from the U.S. and Europe after a ceasefire, that could be sufficient. Its best guarantee will be its own strong military. Trump said Wednesday he would keep supporting Ukraine to stop Putin from &#8220;saying he won.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Zelensky on Thursday spoke again of what he has called “Plan B”, if Ukraine were to be barred from NATO. In that case, the country must “build NATO” on its territory, meaning its own military heavily armed with western weapons and backed by European peacekeeping troops.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Hegseth suggested European and non-European troops could police a de-militarized zone in Ukraine, an idea that is being discussed by European leaders. But it would require a huge forced. Zelensky on Thursday said it would need 100,000 troops, something that would almost certainly be too much for European armies. Putin may also not accept it.</p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The meetings at the Munich Security Conference starting Friday between Vice President JD Vance and Zelensky are now enormously high-stakes. Ukraine needs to be able to establish its minimum requirements.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">But what is clear is the call was a major diplomatic victory for Putin. Suddenly, the U.S. is much closer to his side.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC eTIW sUzSN "><em class=" ">ABC News&#8217; Alexandra Hutzler contributed to this report.</em></p>
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