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		<title>Trump&#8217;s missing the point on DEI and meritocracy, experts say</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Executive orders signed recently by President Donald Trump state that diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs prioritize diversity over merit in hiring, claiming DEI efforts are an “immense public waste and shameful discrimination.&#8221; Some experts in the DEI field disagree, and several tell ABC News that diversity, equity and inclusion programs are aimed at creating [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao MvWXB TjIXL aGjvy ebVHC ">Executive orders signed recently by President Donald Trump state that diversity, equity and inclusion (<a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/dei-programs/story?id=97004455" target="_blank">DEI</a>) programs prioritize diversity over merit in hiring, claiming DEI efforts are an “immense public waste and shameful discrimination.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Some experts in the DEI field disagree, and several tell ABC News that diversity, equity and inclusion programs are aimed at creating a true merit-based system, where hiring, salaries, retention and promotions are decided without bias or discrimination toward employees.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Before the anti-discrimination legislative movement of the 1960s &#8212; including the Equal Pay Act of 1963, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 &#8212; discrimination against certain groups was widespread, according to the <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2015/article/labor-law-highlights-1915-2015.htm" target="_blank">U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.</a></p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;If you were from a dominant group &#8212; generally white people, generally men, straight, cisgender, fully-abled &#8212; you had a huge leg up in terms of getting employment recommendations, higher pay promotions,&#8221; Erica Foldy, a professor at NYU’s Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, told ABC News.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">She continued, &#8220;So, Trump and his allies are harking back to this time that they say was more merit-based, but that&#8217;s not at all how these organizations operated.&#8221;</p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">DEI initiatives &#8212; like implementing accessibility measures for people with disabilities, addressing gender pay inequity, diversifying recruitment outreach, or holding anti-discrimination trainings &#8212; are intended to correct discriminatory organizational practices, experts say.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">DEI experts argue that diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives are &#8220;on the path of creating more merit-based companies, more merit-based firms,&#8221; Foldy said, aiming to ensure that qualified people of all backgrounds have an &#8220;equal chance of being hired; you&#8217;re going to be paid the same as employees at comparable levels.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;Business as usual, without attention to discrimination, is deeply, deeply inequitable,&#8221; Foldy said.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Amri Johnson, a DEI expert and author, told ABC News that the ideal of meritocracy operates under the assumption &#8220;that opportunities are fair.&#8221; Today, studies across industries continue to show that discrimination against a person&#8217;s race, gender, disability, sexual orientation, military background, or other factors continues to permeate the job market.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;If organizations truly want the best talent, companies need to be intentional about how they source and engage with talent,&#8221; said Johnson.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Each year, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission plays a role in hundreds of legal cases concerning ongoing discrimination against protected classes in the workplace.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://www.eeoc.gov/2023-annual-performance-report#:~:text=The%20EEOC's%20litigation%20program%20achieved,addition%20to%20significant%20equitable%20relief." target="_blank">EEOC&#8217;s 2023 performance report</a> offers a long list of lawsuits it settled or won that year. One lawsuit noted blatant racist graffiti or comments made by fellow employees, paired with the discriminatory designation of hard physical labor solely for Black employees; others noted the failures of several employers to make reasonable accommodations for pregnant or disabled workers that led to the employee&#8217;s termination or job offers rescinded.</p>
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<p><span class="gtOSm FbbUW tUtYa vOCwz EQwFq yCufu eEak Qmvg nyTIa SRXVc vzLa jgBfc WXDas CiUCW kqbG zrdEG txGfn ygKVe BbezD UOtxr CVfpq xijV soGRS XgdC sEIlf daWqJ YNujN JGtjI aZFDu rkKLh ">Jim Watson/AFP via Getty Images, FILE</span></p>
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<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">One study found that racial and ethnic discrimination in hiring continues to be a problem globally.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;Relative to white applicants, applicants of color from all backgrounds in the study had to submit about 50% more applications per callback on average,&#8221; according to research from the <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2023/01/racial-discrimination-in-hiring-remains-a-persistent-problem-northwestern-study?fj=1" target="_blank">Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences</a> that analyzed 90 studies involving 174,000 total fake job applications tweaked to include racial indicators but with otherwise similar professional credentials.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;Diversity doesn’t go away because DEI goes away. It is an inevitable part of any human community (business or otherwise),&#8221; said Johnson. &#8220;Not learning how to deal with its tensions and complexity is leaving value on the table.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Some DEI experts point to research from management consulting firm McKinsey <!-- -->&amp; Company that found that <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/diversity-matters-even-more-the-case-for-holistic-impact" target="_blank">companies with more diversity</a> financially and socially outperform those that are less diverse.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;The most successful companies understand that DEI isn’t just a &#8216;&#8221;nice-to-have,'&#8221; said Christie Smith, the former vice president for inclusion and diversity at Apple, in a written statement. &#8220;It’s a driver of innovation, talent attraction, and competitive advantage. The question is whether leaders will have the courage to stay the course and hold firm against political headwinds.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">On Thursday, Trump claimed, without citing evidence, that diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives for air traffic controllers at the Federal Aviation Administration were partly to blame for the tragic plane and helicopter collision in Washington on Wednesday night.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The accusation comes after Trump signed sweeping orders aiming to terminate &#8220;diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility&#8221; programs in or sponsored by the federal government and its contractors.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The White House argues that DEI programs &#8220;deny, discredit, and undermine the traditional American values of hard work, excellence, and individual achievement in favor of an unlawful, corrosive, and pernicious identity-based spoils system.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">&#8220;Americans deserve a government committed to serving every person with equal dignity and respect, and to expending precious taxpayer resources only on making America great,&#8221; reads Trump&#8217;s executive order.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The order revokes several decades-old or years-old executive actions, including the 1965 Equal Employment Opportunity order prohibiting hiring discrimination by federal contractors and its amendments expanding professional development, data collection and retention opportunities.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The order also explicitly revokes a 1994 order to develop environmental justice strategies that address disproportionately high health and environmental impacts faced by low-income or minority communities.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Among the list of orders that are now revoked is a 2011 order requiring federal agencies to develop strategies &#8220;to identify and remove barriers to equal employment opportunity.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">Those in favor of axing DEI programs argue that these initiatives could lead to lawsuits claiming discrimination following the Supreme Court&#8217;s ruling on <em class=" ">SFFA v. Harvard</em> that disallows race to be taken into consideration in college applications.</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy ">The National Center for Public Policy Research has been a strong advocate against DEI, submitting shareholder proposals to reverse the DEI policies at major companies like Costco, John Deere, and others. Ethan Peck, deputy director for the NCPPR’s Free Enterprise Project, <a class="zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE " data-testid="prism-linkbase" href="https://abcnews.go.com/Business/companies-sticking-dei-amid-backlash/story?id=118037109" target="_blank">told ABC News</a> that such companies should be &#8220;colorblind.&#8221;</p>
<p class="EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC eTIW sUzSN ">&#8220;We&#8217;re saying that companies have an obligation, a legal obligation, and an obligation to their shareholders, and an obligation to their employees to treat everybody the same, regardless of their race and sex, and we&#8217;d submit any proposal to keep that that way,&#8221; Peck said.</p>
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